Mat and his son, Jack GoP:
How did you get into the wine business? MG:
The short answer? Freud. The slightly longer one? Well, during my
freshman year at the University of Georgia I had a dorm mate who was a
3rd year law student. He was really into the "finer things in
life." Pipes, killer audio system, and wines. He had a copy of a
Hugh Johnson book. Every week we'd read about a different area, then on
Friday we'd go out & buy a bottle of wine from that area. Turns
out not only was I intrigued by the varieties and the differences, but I
found that my dates were REALLY impressed when I could say "a
bottle of your finest Chateauneuf-du-Pape, my good man" when we
were out to dinner! I
decided to learn more, so I worked in the retail business while I put
myself through school. GoP:
Why Rhônes? MG:
Well, I'd always been a red wine fanatic since I got into it. Syrahs
intrigued me more than the "other" wines. Cab/Bordeuaux
varieties lacked grace and fruit; Pinots had grace but sometimes too
green (both in taste & the COST). Syrahs & red Rhônes delivered
the best bang for the buck. In
1982 a buddy of mine gave me a bottle of Condrieu for a birthday
present. "Wow, WHITE wine!" I thought. Tucked it away in a
wine rack & forgot about it. Then, a few months later, I was
preparing a fish dish and pulled it out. When I popped the cork I was
immediately hooked. "What in the HELL is that???" Well, I
tried to find as much information as I could about Condrieu. That was
all of about a handful of sentences. I needed to know more, so I started
buying Condrieu/Viognier whenever I found them. GoP:
When and why did you start the Garretson Wine Company? MG:
Our first commercial vintage was 1997. I'd done a little home winemaking
over the years, and knew before I even moved to CA that I wanted to get
my hands purple. It's one thing to promote, market, package wine...quite
another to make it. I wanted to do both. In my
"real" career, I've inherited established brands (Eberle and
now Wild Horse). With GWC I can perform a little
"counter-intuitive" marketing and production. I have the
pleasure of working with growers, making wines in a different style, and
packaging them to reflect me and my family. It's fun. GoP:
How did you get started with HdR? MG: I
got out of the Atlanta retail scene in 1988 & went to work for my
father. While his business was very secure and profitable, I missed
being involved in wine. I thought, "maybe there's something I can
do to keep my involvement in my passion (wine) while still keeping my
day job?" I
quickly thought of Rhônes. I could see that they were being planted and
produced throughout the world in increasing numbers; however, most
consumers couldn't even pronounce Viognier much less know what it was. I
thought that SOMEBODY better start beating the drums or Rhone wines will
never emerge from cult status, and enjoy the commercial success they
deserved. That's why I started this organization (originally called The
Viognier Guild). And it quickly took over my life...for the better, I
think. GoP:
What was the biggest success of the weekend? MG:
You mean other than the fact I survived it? Well, it's hard to put a
finger on a single event. I think the success of HdR is to be found when
you look at who's there. We had arguably the finest collection of Rhone
winemakers gathered anywhere; Chapoutier's talking with Steve Edmunds,
Bob Lindquist is over there with Charlie Melton, Manfred Krankl is
sharing a bottle with Pascal Roux. For me, it's like being at Cooperstown
rubbing elbows with Lou Gerhig, Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey
Mantle...you get the picture. Then,
you take all these folks, and you see they're having FUN. They're not
always behind a table or podium. They're interacting with the rest of
the attendees. Wine lovers from Tucson, a restaurateur from New York, a
wine retailer from Kansas. They're all bowling, celebrating, having a
good time. THAT'S
the success of HdR. GoP:
How much did HdR raise for Hospice this year? Is it only the
auction proceeds that go to them? MG:
We're still crunching the numbers, paying our vendors, etc. We raised
$150,000 in the auction, and the proceeds of this will go to Hospice.
It's my plan to expand our giving to encompass Hospices throughout the
state. For example, say next year 10% of our participating wineries are
from Sonoma County. Well, then 10% of our gift giving will go to the
Hospice there, and so on. GoP:
How did this year’s event compare with last year’s? MG:
In terms of attendance, we were up slightly. In terms of winery
participation we were again up. The overwhelming difference from 2000 as
compared to last year was that this year we had a dedicated staff (up
until this year, it's been pretty much a one or two-man band). That made
for a much more organized event for everyone. GoP:
What’s in the future for HdR? Do you want it to grow into a
bigger event, perhaps like ZAP? MG:
Like I keep telling my wife, bigger is not always better. Do I see the
event itself growing like ZAP? Nope. We're limiting the number of
wineries to 200, and number of full-weekend attendees to 500 total.
We'll then allow approximately 1,000 additional folks in for the open
tastings (Friday's Library/Auction and Saturday's Grand). I try
to see HdR from the everyone's viewpoint...which is easy to do, because
I'm a producer, a marketer and a consumer of these wines. From the
consumer's point of view, I don't want it to get too crowded. It's
important that we do not lose the ability for attendees to interact with
the producers. From
my producer's viewpoint, it's critical that we continue to have quality
winemakers and wines, with exciting seminars. One of the nicest
compliments I receive each year is invariably from a winemaker who comes
up and says, "You know, I make better Syrah (or Viognier, etc.)
each year by what I learn here." Too
often wine marketers judge success of an event by the number of people.
That's a mistake. I've been to way too many events where there are
thundering hordes of folks waving there glass in your face saying
"give me something red." Chances are, the following day, 98%
of them don't remember what they drank. It LOOKS good, but doesn't
result in sales, which is one of the primary reasons a winery signs up
to pour at an event. HdR
by its nature attracts consumers. BUT, they are extremely knowledgeable,
educated and motivated consumers. I doubt any of our consumer attendees
walked up to a winemaker and asked for Chardonnay! I've
also tried to design an event that - by bringing the best winemakers,
incredible wines, intriguing/educational seminars, barrel auction, etc.
– in turn brings the retailers and restaurateurs. THESE are the folks
who can effectively get folks into Rhônes. Get 100 good
retailers/restaurateurs at your event, and they'll do more good for a
winery than 5,000 consumers will. GoP:
Do you plan to keep festivities at the Fairgrounds? MG:
We've had discussions about this, but nothing's been agreed upon, one
way or the other. I like the informality of the venue...nobody's ever
going to mistake it for the Napa Wine Auction (especially the
bathrooms...WOW! Like an acid trip without the acid.). There are a few
things we'd like to change there. We've also been approached by folks in
San Luis Obispo. We'll see. I fully expect to announce the date and the
location of the event by the last week in July. GoP:
What exactly are Old Bridge Cellars Shiraz/Syrah Trophies and the
coveted Coat-du- Rhône, and who won them? MG:
Two years ago we decided to provide participating winemakers with the
opportunity to meet on Thursday before HdR starts. This gathering takes
the form of a luncheon where it's pretty much an "open mike."
Information, ideas and wines are exchanged. It's pretty stimulating. Well,
you can't get a group of winemakers together without them getting into a
pissing contest about who's wine is best. So, we devised a blind tasting
of Syrahs/Shiraz for the winemakers. It's a simple hedonistic judgment
of what wine they like best. Rob McDonald (owner of Old Bridge Cellars)
offered to sponsor a trophy for the wine/winemaker whose wine garners
the top votes. This year’s OBC Syrah/Shiraz Winemaker's Trophy was
awarded to winemaker Chester Osborn of d'Arenberg Winery. I'd
like to point out though we've kept it as non-commercial as possible.
Each year, the vintage being tasted is no longer in wide distribution
(this year was 1996, next year's will be 1997, and so on). That way, it
DOES give you bragging rights, but the commercial benefit is minimal. The
"Coat-du-Rhone" was something we devised to again give winners
bragging rights after the auction. There are actually two coats: one for
the winemaker and one (if appropriate) for the grape grower whose barrel
fetches the highest bid. It's kind of like winning the Masters...except
you only keep the coat for a year; then it's passed on. Last
year's winning winemaker was Manfred Krankl (Sine Qua Non), using John
Alban's Syrah grapes. This year it was Ehren Jordan (Turley) for his
Roussanne...again from John's grapes. Try as he may, John can't seem to
get rid of that coat! GoP:
When and how did Rhône-N-Bowl start? MG:
How can you get together such a group and not think "bowling?"
Seriously,
we started RnB in 1997 when we moved the event to Paso Robles. I thought
it'd really set the tone of the event. Unpretentious. Party.
Celebration. Have
you ever heard the old saying, "A pet looks a lot like its
owner?" Well, the same is true of Rhone wines. The wines and the
folks who make them are, for the most part, laid-back, unpretentious and
FUN. Why not provide an atmosphere where that could prevail? GoP:
Who were the official winners of Rhône-N-Bowl? MG:
Almost every team sports some kind of name. d'Arenberg has the Dead
Arms, Bill
Easton has "Rhonesome Dove,"
Tom Hill's is "Only the
Rhonely." This year's winner was an unnamed (for now, anyway) team
consisting of Bill Wathen & Mike Carhart of Foxen, Chuck Carlson of
Curtis, and another person whose name escapes me. You
know, it's funny. The event thrives on informality. That being said, I
think we're going to have to formalize Rhone-N-Bowl. What we MAY do is
have elimination rounds...like Wimbledon, etc. Perhaps next year it'll
all come down to 2 teams, bowling for prestige (and a VERY ugly trophy)
while the crowd cheers them on? GoP:
And what about the Rhône-N-Bowl Trophy? Wasn’t it Gangloff and
Villard who hijacked it? MG:
The trophy was indeed "stolen" by Yves Gangloff and
Francois Villard. Since Bill Wathen's team wasn't around for the award, these
Frenchies decided THEY'D be responsible for decorating it for next year. Rules
allow for the winning team to "own" the trophy for the year,
AND they have the right to build upon its splendor...ah, ugliness. I
built the original. It was then awarded to Tom Hill's team, Only the
Rhonely, in 1998. They added the greenery & chilli peppers. The
d'Arenberg Dead Arms won it in 1999, and they sawed it in half, placed a
bottle of "The Dead Arm" Shiraz in it, and added the Aussie
flags.
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