Wines Reviewed In This Article
 

2000 Brut

2001 Brut

2002 Brut

1999 Late Disgorged Brut

2000 Late Disgorged Brut

NV Rosé

1992 Le Reve

1993 Le Reve

1994 Le Reve

1995 Le Reve

1996 Le Reve

1997 Le Reve

1998 Le Reve

1999 Le Reve

2000 Le Reve

 

 


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After
slamming Iron Horse, I decided to next post a more positive review, and most of my thoughts on Domaine Carneros are very positive.
 

Domaine Carneros


The highlights of this tasting were a vertical of every vintage of Le Reve (it was first released in 1992) and the discovery of their Late Disgorged Brut, which is a world class sparkler and my favorite wine from Domaine Carneros. Overall, I found this house to be producing wonderful sparkling wines that showed a little better than I expected and remembered. I think they are wines to be enjoyed in the short term (1-3 years after release) rather than age, but there is nothing wrong with drinking them well young. The key is that the wine drinks well and Domaine Carneros does. They can handle some age and do it gracefully, but after a quick climb towards the peak, they roll slowly and gracefully downhill.

I don’t quite understand the movement by Domaine Carneros and others to including Pinot Blanc (which is an approved Champagne grape) in their blend. They feel it makes a difference and even at 1%, I think this is true, but I have a hard time believing that adding Pinot Blanc to a blend of Chardonnay and/or Pinot Noir will result in a better wine if you have enough or can get enough high quality Chardonnay and Pinot Noir to only use these two varietals. If you look at Champagne and California sparklers, the best wines tend to make use of just Chardonnay and Pinot Noir. Yes, other very good and interesting wines can be made from or by adding other grapes, but they are exceptions IMO and the top wines of almost everyone are made by the two noble sparkling wine grapes. Maybe it will result in a little more flavor and instant gratification on release, but I do not understand this, as I think it stunts the potential of the wine. I really need to investigate this more, because maybe I am missing something here and Pinot Blanc is perfect for California sparklers.

Overall, I think Domaine Carneros is making excellent wines. The Le Reve cuvee is expensive, but a world class sparkler. The Vintage Brut is a good wine at a good price. However, the real steal is the Late Disgorged Brut. I wish they sold this on a wide scale rather than just at the winery (and even then I believe you have to be in their wine club to buy it).

The Late Disgorged Brut is their best wine IMO and at $30 is an incredible value that can outperform most Champagnes at that price point and well above. Since both the regular and Late Disgorged Bruts are the exact same wine down to the dosage, it really makes me wonder why they don’t just keep their regular Vintage Brut on its lees for a few more years. If they did this, they would not only make a case for making the best base level Vintage Brut, but they would also make a good case for being the best California sparkling wine producer IMO. I also wonder what a late disgorged Le Reve would taste like!

In addition to having great sparklers, I really enjoyed their facility. It is beautiful, very relaxed, and staffed by one of the most enthusiastic and knowledgeable groups around. I would recommend it to anyone who was passing through the area. Domaine Carneros is a well run operation that proudly carries on the Taittinger tradition. The wines are not similar in profile except to say that they are easy to drink and sometimes the Domaine Carneros wines are better than the NV and Vintage Taittinger cuvees.

There must be something in the water just off of Highway 12/121 in Carneros because some of the best sparklers in California and the world are being made by Domaine Carneros and a neighbor who will be reviewed later.

Some quick facts/thoughts/opinions:

  • All of the wines are a blend of Chardonnay and Pinot Noir with a tiny bit (normally less than 5%) of Pinot Blanc.
  • The Le Reve is a Blanc de Blanc of Chardonnay and Pinot Blanc. It is all estate grown fruit.
  • The Rosé is made by a combination of a very short saignee method and a red wine addition to get the final product where they want it.
  • I think most of the releases drink best within 1-2 years of release (maybe you can take Le Reve out to 3 years). After that they start a very slow decline, but still continue to drink well.
  • The wines are normally dosed between 11 g/L and 13 g/L. The late disgorged Bruts receive the same dosage as the original release.
  • The late disgorged Bruts are left to age on their lees for an additional 2-3 years.
  • They do not do any malolactic on their wines and no barrel aging is done.

As with all my other California notes, these wines were tasted between September 12 and October 15 of 2006. They came from the following sources: purchased at the winery, supplied by the winery, tasted at the winery, new releases purchased from a store, and older vintages from my cellar. Some of the wines were tried multiple times and almost all were evaluated over a minimum of a 1 hour period. Glassware was not consistent. With any older bottle, bottle variation can run high. When a bottle was clearly flawed and there was no backup, I have noted it. I have had many of these wines (and others not included below) before and that has helped in shaping a perspective for when a wine is dying and was not flawed.

2000 Brut
A creamy citrus and sweet vanilla nose lead into a slightly thin palate of bright citrus dough, fluffy cream, and a hint of pear. Not a bad wine, but it seems to have fallen from its peak. I would drink it up.  B-  Find this wine

2001 Brut
The nose is a bit hard to find, but shows notes of walnuts, vanilla cream, and citrus. The palate is much more open with flavors of clean orange and lemon led citrus and creamy, fluffy dough. It finishes up a bit thin and short. This is certainly a nice wine, but I would prefer a bit more body and less fluffiness.  B  Find this wine
 
2002 Brut
Very fruit forward with floral pears, honeysuckle, citrus and hints of dough on the nose. Flavors of pears, peaches and dough lead into creamy floral spiced finish. This is ready to go right now.  Low B+  Find this wine

1999 Late Disgorged Brut (disgorged 2005)
Where have these late disgorged wines been all my life? The nose on this shows a concentrated orange essence and toasty dough. Very rich in flavor with sweet dough going both toasty and biscuity , well balanced peach and citrus flavors, and hints of vanilla cream & almonds. Great smorgasbord of flavors. This is the regular brut on steroids and I like it. It is amazing what an extra few years of lees aging will do.  A-  Find this wine

2000 Late Disgorged Brut (disgorged June 2006)
A very deep nose of unsweetened pears, citrus, and just out of the toaster toast pull me in and scream, “Drink me!” So I do and I get fluffy pears and peaches with a beautiful toasty flavor and nice citrus backbone. I would swear this had a lower dosage than the original disgorgement, but it doesn’t. This is killer stuff to drink over the next couple years.  A-  Find this wine

NV Rosé
Domaine Carneros likes to promote this for young drinking and releases it at around 2 years of age. They say they are shooting for a fine balance of delicacy and fruitiness with this wine. I think it is a little too plain. The wine starts off with a nose of light cherries and strawberries and then goes into flavors of watery fruit punch. It is enjoyable and not offensive, but I can only see using this as a cheap party sparkler and it isn’t that cheap.  C+  Find this wine

1992 Le Reve
Hmmm... this one is not so good. Very astringent on the nose and palate with bitter citrus leading into bubblegum and dry peaches. The finish is short and creamy, but sweet and creamy. This one is gone.  C- but this is over the hill.  Find this wine

1993 Le Reve
Biscuit dough and slightly bitter citrus mix with fluffy flowers and toast. This one is on its last legs, but still fighting. Drink it tonight (don’t wait for tomorrow - it might be dead) if you have a bottle.  B-  Find this wine

1994 Le Reve
I am amazed that this is still so fluffy and peachy at 12 years old. Even more so by the good dose of doughy biscuits, but even though this shows young elements, it is starting to thin out. There is a fading spice element in the mix that to me signals a downhill motion. Drink up.   B  Find this wine

1995 Le Reve
Loads of citrus and cream mix with orange fluffy peaches and sweet vanilla notes, but this just seems to be loosing some of its oomph and taking on a thin acidic bend. It is still a nice drink, but I would drink it up now.  High B  Find this wine

1996 Le Reve
Light citrus and honeysuckle mix with toast and a hint of sherry to form an inviting nose that gives way to a palate of citrus yeastiness and acidity that would normally lead you to believe that this would be on the way up, but it is not. This wine shows why you need to know the context of the wine you are tasting and why blind tastings can sometimes be misleading. Most of the non-citrus fruit that was present in this vintage has disappeared. This is actually going downhill as shown by it turning a bit bland and a tad sweet. It is still quite good, but it was better 2 years ago (a low A- in 2004). It now gets a  Low B+  Find this wine

1997 Le Reve
Big fluffy cream kissed by honey, peaches, and sweet flowers. I really like this. It is wide open and showing a bit of wild yeasty dough that is going toasty. At its peak, so drink it up.  A-  Find this wine

1998 Le Reve
On the pour, this shows a nose of creamy walnuts and light citrus. With some air, wonderful toasty aromas join in. The palate is full of bright, dry, creamy peach and citrus fruit that screams New World to me. Some spiciness enters in on the finish. This is a nice wine, but I would advise you to drink up now if you have it.  B+  Find this wine

1999 Le Reve
Tight and creamy with dried peaches and a kick of orange laced spice. This is showing excellent acidity and good fruit that has yet to really open up. You could wait another year for some fluffy fruit to appear, but I like it now.  B+  Find this wine

2000 Le Reve
A very closed nose right now. This shows a big creamy, yeasty flavor with hints of earth, peachy spice and some mature notes. I think it has excellent potential, but needs a year to come together. Certainly enjoyable today, but more is to come. 
B but clear B+ potential sometime in 2007.  Find this wine

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